BTW; There was some discussion about the status for beginners at both the AGM and at the pub I think there have probably been some misunderstandings as well as strong opinions expressed by some of the stronger members who don’t want to end up having to rescue people (likely my fault - sometimes I just say what I think at the time… always tell me if it’s something stupid or upsetting and I’ll try to stop - also remember I’m probably trying and failing to be funny) so:
- We are not an instructional club
- We do like to include our members and get them going
- Transferring skills during climbing is one of the traditional climbing club activities
- Scottish winter can be mega serious - wind and weather can take it beyond the alps
- We want everyone to be safe - and not end up going out without someone experienced
(small note - this comes from me as my proposal as the person trying to arrange accommodation - not any club official thing otherwise)
If you don’t feel fully experienced, but someone else volunteers to take you out then that’s fine but you are responsible for being sure in advance the person taking you out is safe and comfortable doing that. So I think the recommendation should be that if you haven’t winter climbed before you should book in for one of the courses at Glenmore lodge.
here are some courses that look interesting and match our schedule
03/02/20 Winter Lead Climbing (5 days) £975.00 £850.00
03/02/20 Winter Climbing (5 Days) £975.00 £850.00
3/02/20 Winter Navigation – Introduction £140.00 £115.00
03/02/20 Intro to Winter Climbing (2 days) £410.00 £360.00
03/02/20 Guided Winter Climbing £1,100.00 £975.00
03/02/20 Winter Mountaineering (5 days) £725.00 £600.00
03/02/20 Ropework for Tourers and Freeriders £140.00 £115.00
03/02/20 Develop Off Piste Skiing £485.00 £410.00
03/02/20 Discover Backcountry Skiing (5 days) £750.00 £625.00
03/02/20 Winter Skills (5 Days) £675.00 £550.00
10/02/20 Winter Skills (5 Days) £675.00 £550.00
10/02/20 Winter Mountaineering (5 days) £725.00 £600.00
10/02/20 Guided Ski Tour (5 Day) £750.00 £625.00
10/02/20 Develop Ski Touring (5 Days) £750.00 £625.00
10/02/20 Winter Climbing (5 Days) £975.00 £850.00
10/02/20 Winter Lead Climbing (5 days) £975.00 £850.00
10/02/20 Advanced Winter Skills (5 days) £675.00 £550.00
The higher price includes accommodation - about £25 a day which is pretty good value. Ours will likely be cheaper and you get to eat with your club mates. You could also join the club trip after your course if you prefer.
Winter walking in the Scottish hills is mountaineering and so if you can do that safely and competently do come along. Ski mountaineering is mountaineering so exactly the same. Alpine skiers are tolerated*. If you have only been out trad leading in summer but are sure you want to start, then the course above are really the best option.
K. should come along anyway because there are several of us (me included) who are happy to take her out anyway. If you aren’t sure, talk to the experienced members of the club about how to get into winter climbing. Maybe they’ll take you along for a day in December and you’ll decide you hate it and never winter climb again which will save you lots of money and risk. Borrow gear if you do that.